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An Olympic sized loss of face?

posted Friday, 4 April 2008

If reports in the Western media prove accurate it looks as if Beijing is standing on the doorstep of another significant loss of face in relation to the Olympics. The forced withdrawal of a senior Chinese diplomat from the Olympic torch procession through Europe.

According to reports carried by the English language media Fu Ying: the Chinese ambassador to London, has been forced to pull out of plans to carry the Olympic touch on part of its relay through the British capital amidst stories that protesters were planning to "make their presence felt" during the event. Ambassador  Ying was meant to have joined the procession at the British Museum, and to have carried it on to the next destination, but may now be forced to watch from the sidelines.

Where protectors to disrupt Ambassador Ying's participation in the procession it would be a personal humiliation for the Ambassador, and a considerable loss of face for Beijing. Possibly even on the scale of the 2005 incident when protesters in Canada forced President Hu Jintao to enter a Toronto banquet through the tradesmans' entrance.

 

"When you are the president of the world's most populous country and you have to sneak in the back door, that's a disgrace,"
A Lin Representative, Formosa (Taiwanese) Association for Public Affairs

Saving Face?

According to the Chinese embassy in London, questions over Ambassador Ying's place in the procession were not related to planned protests by Tibetan independence campaigners, or to the expected presence of supporters of the FLG spiritual movement, but were instead were the result of scheduling conflicts. Specifically that Ambassador Ying had received instructions to meet with a visiting Olympic delegation from Beijing during the procession weekend.

"[[Ambassador Ying has] been instructed to be with the delegation this weekend, but she is still trying to see whether she can meet both demands."

Liu Weimin, spokesman, Chinese Embassy to London

Suppression?

According to the British press at least 6 groups have notified authorities of their intention to carry out demonstrations during the torch procession. However, while the right to stage demonstrations is guaranteed under British law Britain has a poor record on permitting anti-China demonstrations.

While British law prevents London from baning public demonstrations, it allows them to be redirected or contained in ways which can significantly reduce their impact. something which has previously been done in relation to anti-China protests which threatened to embarrass the current administration.

In one previous example, British security fouces permitted anti-China demonstrations to be held during an official state visit by Mainland leaders, but only in areas where they could not come into contact with Chinese delegates or their accompanying media. Security forces have also confiscated banners and Tibetan flags from demonstrators to prevent them from being unfurled in the presence of visiting Mainland dignitaries .

It remains to be seen how close demonstrators will be allowed to come to the route or to Chinese delegates, and as to how security forces will react in the event of demonstrators managing to infiltrate the crowds alongside the procession route.

On a more cheerful note, China watchers have noted that while London will likely act to prevent protesters from upstaging China during the procession, Britain's vocal independent press will likely make any interruption or embarrassment impossible to cover up.

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1. Loveandtheplanet left...
Friday, 4 April 2008 6:11 am :: http://www.loveandtheplanet.blogspot.com

A non-event, but the British Press will cover anything that keeps them in their jobs, because there is nothing else for them to do. And human rights activists have to be given the right to protest, otherwise they would focus on local corruption, abuse of power, or outright incompetence, and that would be far too inconvenient and local.

Sad, though, that China is desperate for the miserable bit of Global attention that the Olympics brings, just when Tacky Globalism is about as desirable as a soiled diaper? Perhaps if the Chinese Government would pay more attention to saving what little traditional culture, history, and pollution-free nature is left in China, then the world might bother to visit, and admire. Terracotta soldiers indeed....

Having the Olympics in one's own country is a bit like buying a dress that one saw 20 years ago and always wanted. You finally get to wear the dress you always wanted, but everyone else is now wearing trousers, and preferably in dust-trap heung-ha black. Fashion is so last year, n'est-ce pas?


2. The Masked Millionaire left...
Friday, 4 April 2008 6:30 pm :: http://www.TheMaskedMillionaire.com

China does not deserve the olympics. The business model they have built their country on won't work in the long run. They are using slave labor and they are treating their own people like garbage. How long do you think that is going to last?

Live From Las Vegas The Masked Millionaire


3. ACB left...
Saturday, 5 April 2008 3:58 am

Well The Masked Millionaire, both Britian and America did exactly the same thing back in the day, they're still pretty much top of the pile.

China's model doesn't have to be sustainable in the long term, it only needs subsist long enough for China to be able to establish a base from which to work in the future. Once China has developed a large enough consumer class its production capacity can broaden and slow, and then turn inwards rather than outwards. In turn this will lead to demand for higher quality products and the need for more skills and advancements in manufacturing which will lead to imports and the upscaling of China's manufacturing sector. At least if Beijing play things right, it will.


4. ACB left...
Saturday, 5 April 2008 4:10 am

"China does not deserve the Olympics."

Let me say this. In 2012 Britain will have the Olympics. At present Britain lends succor to one of the most repressive regimes in the developing world. A regime that represses the free media, violates land and religious rights on a daily basis, allows detention without charge or trial for many crimes, occupies two neighboring states and continually threatens a third state with invasion, uses prison labor, violates international IPR on an unimaginable scale, and which sells arms to some of the world's other least friendly regimes. Yet despite all of this Britain buys billions of dollars worth of goods from this nation every year, refuses to place sanctions on it, and barely even offers token complaint when it does something abhorrently.

I'm pretty certain that you can guess which nation I'm speaking of.

If China doesn't deserve the Olympics for its numerous attrocities, then neither does any nation that so ardently supports Beijing while it is committing them.


5. ACB left...
Saturday, 5 April 2008 4:57 am

"A non-event, but the British Press will cover anything that keeps them in their jobs, because there is nothing else for them to do."

I suppose this was why both the BBC and CNN saw fit to report on it. Since it looks as if Beijing may be pulling an about-face on this one because of the damage that the Ambassador pulling out might cause it will certainly be interesting to watch the procession, just in case something goes down.

Will the Ambassador take part, will protesters be able to get close enough to embarrass her, and will British authorities violate the rights of demonstrators in order to spare Beijing some face? If I were a betting person I might be laying odds right now.

Britain has a poor reputation on anti-China demonstrations. Do you remember when they confiscated those Tibetan flags even though they had no authority under British law to do so? If I were to attempt to stand front-row-Center of the audience with a big Tibetan flag in my hand, how far do you think that I would get?


6. BeWay left...
Sunday, 6 April 2008 2:23 am

If China doesn't qualify to stage the Olympic game, which major Western nations has the moral right to claim one. Britain definitely can't claim the right when its hand is still soaked with the bloods of the Iraqis. What more the stolen treasures and artiques from all around thw rold. are still kept without shame in their museums and royal palaces. Yeah, you may feel the joy of embarassing the Chinese temporary but remember the loser will still be Dalai Lama. Let the masses of Han Chinese migrated to Tibet. Who cares what the West thinks. The Chinese have the right, the very right to do what they want in their own country. Go ahead and trumpet the little success that you have at this moment


7. The Angry Chinese Blogger left...
Sunday, 6 April 2008 2:41 am

Well said, Mainland Han have every right to do as they please in China. But not in Tibet.

Mainland Han should stick to the Mainland. Tibet should be left for the Tibetans.


8. BeWay left...
Sunday, 6 April 2008 8:18 pm

Alright, all Chinese whether they're Han, Hui, Mongols etc, will stick to the Mainland for the meantime. Tibet is in the mainland as well. The world heard that. Thanks.


9. ACB left...
Sunday, 6 April 2008 8:37 pm

Actually, no, Tibet is a neighboring country currently under Chinese occupation. Tibet did not become part of the PRC until May 1951, when Tibet was forced to sign the "Seventeen Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet", an unequal treaty.

However, Beijing has violated the treaty several times. particularly clauses 3, 4 and 7.

Beijing is doing to Tibet what Japan did to China and Korea. Accepting Beijing's behavior in Tibet means accepting Japan's behavior all those years ago. Is your stomach strong enough for that?


10. BeWay left...
Monday, 7 April 2008 10:02 pm

The following paragraph from Wikipedia clearly state that Tibet was part of China. In the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, drafted by the British, Britain also recognized the "sovereignty of China over Tibet" and, in conformity with such admitted principle, engaged "not to enter into negotiations with Tibet except through the intermediary of the Chinese Government." The invasion only came when Dalai Lama instigated an armed uprisings in conspiracy with the CIA. The current status is that Tibet is still part of China. Say what the Dalai Lama want to say, he was a loser and he goner lose again - and this time it'll be permanent lost.


11. ACB left...
Tuesday, 8 April 2008 2:06 am

I can go in there and change it, if you like. That's the thing about Wikipedia. Anybody can change anything to say anything.


12. BeWay left...
Tuesday, 8 April 2008 3:05 am

Nothing surprised. Those wild Tibetans as well as their supporters have very low mentality to speak of. More brute than brain. You can change all you want in Wiki but the fact is recorded in the archives of all governments. Burn them all the same, right. Go ahead. Nobody is stopping you, stupid


13. ACB left...
Wednesday, 9 April 2008 3:17 am

Maybe this would be a good time for me to drawn your attention to the actions of many Chinese not so long ago. Chinese who beat Chinese for having Japanese signs in their store windows, or for owning Japanese goods. If this months events show that Tibetans and their supporters have a low mentality, then surely those Mainlanders whom rioted must be even lower than the dirt on which they are walking.

Beijing is doing to Tibet what Japan did to China. If you are supporting Beijing in Tibet then you are supporting Imperial Japan and the murder of millions of Chinese.