China warns US over award for Dalai Lama

Well, the Communist Chinese leadership, may be "upset", but then so is the rest of the world, with the way they have been sponsoring state terrorism in Burma and the killing of innocent Falun Gong members for having the audacity to meditate in public parks. If these guys want to play nicely in the world, they can begin by not censoring the Internet, stop polluting the environment and stop trying to shut down or hack into our government communications systems.

fuck you people, you put lead paint in our toys give us shitty products kill off harmless monks and try to be over all fuck ups and now your pissed because we want to give the Dali Lama an award why don't you eat your own paint chips. We should take back our textiles and toy making and tell you all to go fuck yourselves.

I Don't really care what upsets China... I like the previous sentiment......Fu*k China..... Place your currency on the opne market ,stop attaching it to the dollar and the playing field will begin to level

I suggest that you stand back and think about the full implications of what you are suggesting.

An undervalued RMB is in the best interests of America's consumers as it allows them to maintain a higher standard of living by pushing down the cost of consumer goods such as clothes, home wares and electrical appliances. If the RMB were to go up compared to the dollar your daily living expenses would go up and your quality of life would go down.

More than this, the engine of the US economy is consumer confidence. If individual goods cost more then consumers will spend less and loose confidence, and if consumers spend less then the American retail sector will loose profitability and confidence. This will lead to less investment in the retail sector as confidence in its growth falters.

As consumer confidence falters, consumers will look to consolidate what they have rather than to expand. The will redecorate and repair rather than renew or expand their housing and furniture, causing a knock-on effect in these sectors, and thus a loss of confidence in the banking sector which has a large stack in real estate and large purchase items through loans and credit.

The bigger the rise in the RMB, the further up the tree this will go and the harder it will hit both US consumers and the US economy.

If you want to see US citizens loosing their luxury goods because the basics have suddenly gone up in price, then by all means call for the RMB to be revalued.

The Congressional Award ceremony dates were set MONTHS before China's secretive Communist Party announced the timing of the closed-door 17th Congress. China then lobbied to have the dates changed. How can you take an outfit like that seriously?

I fully understand, how can you take anybody seriously when they allow only a few months to set up something as important as an award ceremony for the Dali Lama? Some dignitaries have their calenders booked up a year in advance, how many people's lives were disrupted by Washington's lack of forethought, having to choose between honoring the Dali Lama and their pre-arranged meetings.

China should not interfere in the internal affairs of the USA.

The "Dalai Lama" is downright evil, in Europe most people hate him too. Buddhists do not "believe in reincarnation" no matter how often the backward Tibetans claim that for their bastardized religion.

On the contrary, the "Dalai Lama" is an absolutist God-King who wants to get back to power and would do anything for it. "Tibetan Buddhism" is a cult of superstition full of demons. They employ the death-cult (of "reincarnation") and absolute power just like Khomeini or the Pope.

"Religious freedom" = enslavement for those who do not believe.

When you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.

Ah, the epitome of ignorant white-trash.

The Dali-Lami is recognized by the UN and Washington as a world-class peacemaker and he has a massive world wide following among both Buddhist and non-Buddhist. Even Fox admits how well respected and how good for the world he is, and Fox usually brands anybody who isn't a neo-con a threat to freedom and democracy.

Unlike you I actually, I have actually been to Europe and can tell you that he is similarly hailed as a great man there. When Rice or Bush come to Europe they are booed and met by anti-war protectors and the police had to cordon them off. When the Dali Lama was last their they lined the streets and cheered.

On another note, the Pope does not believe in reincarnation. It's true that there are some fringe beliefs that disabilities in this life is a punishment for trespasses committed in a previous life, but this isn't part of mainstream dogma and is actually spoken out against by most churches.

As for "Religious freedom" = enslavement for those who do not believe.

Religious freedom can only be obtained in a free society, if those who do not believe are enslaved by those who do believe, then the society by definition cannot be free and therefore cannot actually have religious freedom. Your argument is a non-starter.

Also, in most cases, this isn't actually anything to do with religion, it's more to do with the host state being a dictatorship. This is evidenced by the fact that the same rules apply in secular dictatorships.

For example, Saudi Muslims have the freedom to do all of the things that Muslims do, but because they don't have the freedom to live openly and unhindered as a Buddhist, then they don't actually have religious freedom.

Equally, in Soviet Russia or Mao's China people were forced to be secular. They had freedom from religious constraints and were allowed to live openly secular lives without discrimination or persecution (other than that which originated from living in a Red dictatorship). However while they were free from religious restrictions they were often prevented from living open religious lifestyles and from applying religious rules to themselves. This too is not religious freedom.

I doubt very much that you even know what it is like to experience real oppression, and because you sound like a typical neo-con I'd wager that what oppression there is in your society is oppression that you support and that you see as a freedom for yourself because it restricts others from following different paths from you.

Unlike you I actually AM European! Made me laugh well enough.

The Dalai Lama is seen as a fringe esoteric nut here. Nobody lines the streets for him, what a nonsense. The powerful ones boost him because thats a good way to keep the people down. It's clear that you have no idea what Europe is actually about.. not a Stalinist "atheist state", but leave me alone with your religious bullshit, it's pretty much dead here. Really.

And the false "reincarnation" is anti-Buddhist. It is their specific form of a death cult like Khomeini or the Pope have them too. Even the german Nazis were big friends with the Tibetan Buddhists because of that.

We have real Buddhists here, probably just like in China or Japan nowadays. However Tibetan Buddhism is a fringe cult of superstition. The Dalai Lama is intellectually flat and nothing but a power vampire.

Yeah, yeah, I've heard that one before. If I'd have said America you'd be American, if I'd said the Mainland you'd suddenly be a Mainland right up until the moment that I challenged you to write in Chinese. I've been there and can personally tell you that every time the Dali Lama visits his supporters are lining the streets. It's all on the news, even in the US, it's undeniable.

You're knowledge of European culture is pretty weak if you believe that the Pope believes in reincarnation. It's also as weak as your knowledge of Islam if you believe that Khomeini: a Muslim, believed in reincarnation, too. Muslim's don't believe in it.

As for Tibet and Nazi Germany, you're cultural ignorance is showing. There was Japanese Buddhism in Nazi Germany, but not Tibetan Buddhism, and Japanese Buddhism isn't directly connected to the Dali Lama. In fact the only real Nazi-Tibet connection is through people like Karl Haushofer who were interested in mysticism rather than the Dali Lama (many Nazi were obsessed with the occult).

I'm also at a loss to see what this whole power thing is about. Look at his seat in India, I don't see any of the trappings of power there even though he's venerated there. He doesn't have a big mansion with swimming pools and private jets and playstations everywhere, he has no military and no military power, he doesn't even rake in the tax dollar. In fact he doesn't actually govern anybody. In fact he just talks about spirituality and philosophy and if that's a power grab then Oprah Winfrey must be more powerful than te President of the United States.

You obviously are a US-American masquerading as Chinese, because you can't even cherish the fact that China has always been so remarkably free from "religion" which most Europeans nowadays see as a kind of mental illness. Seriously, I could never live in a religious dictatorship like the US where pupils are forced to public prayer and half of the country believes in "Creationism", eg. is 'slightly nuts'...

Second, I know that Japanese Buddhists were in deep with the Imperialists. All that stuff with the Koans, Za-Zen etc comes from a military tradition. But no, there wasn't anything of this under the Nazis. However, the Tibetan Buddhist- Nazi connection is very real. These shitheads attract each other unmistakably.

You don't seem to know the slightest thing how the "reincarnation" claim is just a fraud to perpetuate a God-King dynasty. How these "holy men" lead wars against each others sects and slaughtered each other. Or even under what circumstances the Tibetans had to live as slaves owned by the "holy men". I repeat, Buddhists do not believe in reincarnation nor in the demons and devils that live that live in Lamaism.

Third, you still don't understand that "death cult" is a universal sign of bad, rotten religion that comes under differerent guises. The Dalai Lama is a Taliban-type who has threatened his country with armed insurrection to ethnically cleanse the Chinese from Tibet and restore the medieval system of slave-ownership and forced labor.

By US-American, do you mean native American Indian? I don't think that I've ever been called that before, but you'd be quite quite wrong there. Plus, if you read my about the author page, you'll actually see that I make no claims to be Chinese at all. But since you said that you were European I don't think that this is one that you call the boat in on.

Unfortunately for you, I happen to know that both Westeners and Asians have a history of "divine right to rule" that existed without a belief in reincarnation. For example, both the Japanese and Chinese emperors ruled this was with a hereditary monarchy rather than a reincarnation belief. The British Monarchy did, too. In fact this belief held sway in Japan until the end of WWII when the Emperor Showa renounce the divine right of the Emperor after Japan's defeat. Proving that you don't need a reincarnation carry on a belief in a divine right.

You appear to know so little about the Dali Lama or Tibet that it's pointless for me to even try to hold a civil debate with you as I wold have to explain everything from the start. You are accusing a man with a noble peace prize of being a religious dictator, yet you can provide no evidence of any wrongdoing. You accuse him of wielding power yet he has no armies and no status other than that which people allow him to have. Next thing you will be accusing the president of the United States of being a liberal.

You stick with your Fox news and your Foot long hotdogs and you silly foreign ways and if they make you happy then that is not for me to say.

(Curse word removed) the Dalai Lama, Viva the People's Republic of China! I support the PRC and it's work to build socialism in its nation. The Dalai Lama is an idiot, and people who think Tibet will be "free" by leaving the PRC are even bigger idiots. If the Dalai Lama was ever to come back into power he'd follow the footsteps of previous Dalai Lama's by installing a religious dictatorship.

Firstly, this is a family friendly website, NO CURSE WORDS, secondly a great many Tibetans WANT to live in a religious state under the Dali Lama. He is their spiritual leader after all.

What are you so afraid of. Are you afraid that you held referendum amongst native Tibetans tomorrow they'd willingly throw off the PRC to live in this so-called religious dictatorship that you are talking about? That would be democracy at work and it would blast your silly Western ideas that its your way or the high way.

At least the Dali-Lama is one of their own, its 100 times better than being ruled by a foreign dictatorship.

"I support the PRC and it's work to build socialism in its nation"

That's the best joke I've heard all day, Beijing has done about as much to further the socialist agenda in Tibet as America has done to further the gay agenda in North Korea.

If you knew anything about China you'd know what a silly statement you just made.