| "There is no political agenda to this visit. He's a Buddhist. He's going to give Buddhist teachings. The Chinese are welcome to come to Mongolia and look at the visit themselves" Tenzin Takla, Spokesperson, Retinue of the Dalai Lama. |
| "[We are] resolutely opposed to any country offering [the Dali Lama] a stage" Foreign Ministry, China |
| "The Dali Lama is not merely a religious figure, but a political exile who over a lengthy period has engaged in splittist activities and hurt national unity" Foreign Ministry, China |
| "We do not have any additional statements or comments on the issue at present" Spokesperson, Chinese Embassy, Mongolia |
| "The border has not been closed. There is no such case. I don't know where you get this report" Kong Quan, Spokesperson, Foreign Ministry, China (2002) |
| "I am not seeking independence. I am seeking self-rule. I think that benefits both Chinese and Tibetan people" Dali Lama |
| "Knowing that his separatist stance has no place in the world today where peace and development prevail, the Dalai Lama now adopts a new strategy of playing down separatist sentiments while trumpeting the highest degree of autonomy of the so-called 'greater Tibet'..... The Dalai Lama's concept of 'greater Tibet' which includes other areas inside the Chinese territory inhabited by Tibetans, has never been formed in history" Legqog, Regional Chairman, Tibet (Speaking in regard to the Dali Lama's visit to Mongolia in 2002) |
| 民族自治地方的自治机关自主地管理本地方的教育、科学、文化、卫生、体育事业,保护和整理民族的文化遗产,发展和繁荣民族文化。 第一百一十九条, 第六节, 中华人民共和国宪法 The organs of self-government of the national autonomous areas independently administer educational, scientific, cultural, public health and physical culture affairs in their respective areas, sort out and protect the cultural legacy of the nationalities and work for the development and prosperity of their cultures. Article 119, Section 6, Constitution, China |
| "In the past 40 years or so, Tibet has inherited and developed its cultural heritage, Tibetan customs and religions have been fully respected, and people have enjoyed full freedom of religious faith" Xinhua, State Controlled media agency, China |
When PRC took over Tibet in the late fifties, they promised "two systems,
one country". Look out, Hong Kong.
Wonderful report and analysis. Thank you.
PRC bases its claim to Tibet on the fact that Tibet used to pay tribute to
the emperors. But there was some confusion as to whether it was tribute or
trade. Ambassadors/merchants gave their presents to the emperor, and, to
show their generosity and superiority, the emperor would give back
considerably more. This knowledge was the reason for the Polo brothers'
journey. But was it really a commercial transaction or an act of
submission?
Okinawa? don't you mean 琉球王国 (The Ryukyu Kingdom).
Have you ever noticed the fact that you never get any hits from the Tibetan
area?
The line between tribute and trade was indeed a fine one, but Qing
suzerainty over Tibet was a bit more than that after the 1750s. They were
one of several Central Asian proto-states that owed their loyalty directly
to the Qing Emperor. Prior to that, No Chinese dynasty could secure
control over the Tibetan plateau, it was the Manchus who finished the job.
Now, this leaves open three questions. The first is historical legacy. 250
years is a long time. Tibet was a part of the Qing before New Hampshire
was even a state. How it came to be a part of the Qing Empire (through the
use of Qing banner troops to crush a Tibetan revolt) might be questioned
but only so far. As one Chinese friend of mine quipped, "I'd be happy to
discuss China's history with Tibet just as soon as the US gives Alta
California back to the Mexicans." The wrinkle, of course, is the second
issue: inherited suzerainty. The Qing Empire was a multi-ethnic empire
under the control of the Manchus. Han Chinese were one part (but by far
the largest) of this conglomerated empire. Was the ROC, as it claimed in
1911, the inheritors of this territorial legacy? (A quite convenient
claim!) The Qing Emperors conquered--and more importantly--controlled lands
that had long remained outside Han control including Xinjiang, Tibet, and
Taiwan. What inherited claims can the ROC and now the PRC make to these
lands? "The Manchus are Chinese, too so it doesn't matter" might work in
2006 but in 1911 the question of Manchu ethnicity was far from settled.
Finally, and this of course is the trickiest, is the issue of national
determination. Should peoples be allowed to separate from a larger state
if they feel it is in their best interests? In most cases, the answer has
been no. The US is preventing the Kurds in Iraq from doing so. The Basques
in France and Spain have waged a terrible and bloody campaign over this
issue to little avail. The examples are too numerous to mention and often,
as in Tibet, involve the inherited remains of long dead empires (whether
Qing, Ottoman, British, French, etc.) So while many in the international
community claim to support national determination, the record itself is
grim.
They can rewrite history if they wish; all conquerors do. They can
re-invent the weather and redefine reality; it's been done before. But to
deny a people their cultural heritage in the name of progress is wrong, and
pointing out that other nations have done it is not a way to excuse it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
@Sarah, you are correct, two wrongs do not make a right. My argument was
based on applying international precedent to historical circumstances to
show that 'history' might not be the best argument to make in defense of
Tibetan sovereignty. I was trying to avoid making a value judgement about
those precedents. I think we agree more than you might believe. As a wise
man once remarked, "To say that something is indefensible because
undefendable is the ultimate immorality."
Re: J's Chinese friend's comment.
"history' might not be the best argument to make in defense of Tibetan
sovereignty"
The entire notion of "cultural" genocide trivializes the meaning of
genocide. It might be aesthetically displeasing to move from one culture
to another, but it clearly isn't nearly as bad as death. If the choice is
between one culture and a less beautiful alternative, it is wildly
inappropriate to frame it in terms of a "death" that never occurs.
I would have to take exception to that. Genocide is the systematic and
targeted extermination of a people, race or culture. Whether you
exterminate the Tibetans by physically killing them, or by killing their
culture, you are still exterminating them as a people.