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I made a small reference to this incident the other day, but not in any great detail.
I wonder how long it will be before the government begins a new crackdown on the internet in hopes of sqaushing some of this news that is being passed around?
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I think the government actually began that crackdown last February, when
blogbus and blogcn went of line to 'clear' their pages.
Maybe we will see a new crackdown, but I think that Beijing is more worried about the possibility of 100,000 Chines eturning up inTiananmen square demanding that the government put more preasure on Japan.
Right now Beijing needs anti-Japanese sentiment to distract people form internal issues, but it also needs strong economic ties with Japan to boost the Chinese economy.
Have you noticed how the only two parts of Sino-Japanese relatins that haven't suffered inthe last two years are tourism and the economic trade.
This sounds very, very similar to the story I reported but the town was
called Huaxi, just outside of Dongyang. I think it's the same place,
judging by this report that refers to
"Huankantou".
Same place, different name. Huanxi must be a shortened version of the name.
Simon [simon@simonworld.mu.nu]
I'm somewhat fearful the protests will truly boil over this weekend, which
could lead to long term consequences for China.
Anti-Japanese emails, many containing false inflamatory information, are being blasted around the country. Without any trusted media easily available to most Chinese, the people are very susceptible to this kind of baiting. Much of the communications suggest violence against Japanese establishments.
Similiar, although less threatening, communications took place against Indonesia following the tsunami regarding a massacre there which I'm not personally familiar with. It was ugly, but also did not have a background of escalating protest and government permissiveness.
Mitch
Great report. Thanks for the good work. I'm linking it. By the way,
where did you get the information on the number of protests?
Mitch
Its good to see that we can put our different perspectives aside (If I hated everybody who saw Japan differently from me, I would have very few Chinese friends indeed).
I tend not to read anti Japanese emails or websites, I know that there is a lot of inflamitory information on them, but trying to explain things wouldn't get me very far.
Unfortunately it is very easy to hate Japan. It did a lot of inhuman things and it is all to easy to believe that it is still in the same mindset as it was in the early twentieth century.
You are right about the Chinese media, there are a lot of 'gaps and misconceptions' because people only have one side of the story. Again, it does little good to try to fill in these gaps because doing so is often taken as declaring "you are wrong", and people in China often react combatively when they are told something that they didn't know they didnt know.
About two years ago this began to change, the advent of weblogs and increased acces to the internet allowed many people to access alterntive news sources and opinions, both from within China and from the outside world, but in February 2004 Beijing launched a huge crackdown and it wiped out a lot of this discourse. This I feel has set China back quite a bit.
ACB
There is a large protest on Saturday morning between People's square and
the bund. China Mobile sent out an SMS to all of their Shanghai
subscribers asking them to behave lawfully (read: they are promoting it and
the government approves.) Chinese friends are receiving upwards of 10
emails per day asking them to bring tomatoes and eggs as gifts to the
Japanese embassy.
Haven't decided whether I'll be there to witness.
If you go, bring a camera, send me a link to the pictures, then tell me
exactly how many of these people's parents were even born when Japan
invaded China.
The ironic thing is that when these pictures hit Japanese TV they make Japanese people behave like China was accusing them of behaving before.
Nothing polorizes a nation, any nation, quite like somebody attacking its people for things that they were not responsible for (by this I mean personally responsible rather than historically responsible. Japan certainly did do a lot of what it was accused of during the war).
Nationalists had alsmost no power in Japan until China started accusing nationalists of rising to power, now Japanese nationalists are rising on a tide of anti Chinese feelings that simply didn't exist before but have been created by anti rising Japanese fellings in China.
Any chance of China getting an acceptable appology from Japan has been set back by another couple of years. If you thought that the chances were low before, their in the basement now and when Korea gets its appology and China doesn't, this whole mess is going to flare up again.
This is a self defeating effort.
ACB
I blogged the riot too, but got a slightly different version.
I'd heard 2 of the initial 200 were killed when the police knocked over
their shelters to remove them and this was the trigger for the full
villiage riot.
I also heard that 13 of the protested factories were closed down, though I've been unable to find out if this is true or false, temporary or permanent, or for that matter why. anyone knows I'd love to hear about it....
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Echoe
I also heard about the two women being killed when a shelter was demolished, I think that given Chinese police tactics, they were probably inside a shelter, or standing in front of it when the police ran a car through it.
Officials have since denied the two deaths happened, but both foreign and Chinese reporters say that they were killed.
As far as I know, there were only 13 chemical factories, and that it was the protesters who shut them down by manning a road block to stop things being brought into the industrial complex.
The roadblock had been in place for about 2 weeks before the police attacked it.
ACB